I am banking on Gogeta doing the same thing he did to Broly. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Also metamaran fusion only lasts 30 minutes, which is something that needs to be accounted for in a fight. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed save the entire DBS Multiverse from jeopardy. This changed when he hit mastered form, and while he was handling Jiren with relative ease, it wasn't like Jiren was being taken out in one or two hits. Mui Goku, ssjbe vegeta, fp beerus, gogeta blue, gt gogeta, xeno vegito, vegito blue, lssj broly, fused zamasu, ssj3 Kefla, hit, and FP Jiren. If we look at Gotenks vs Buu and Vegito vs Buu, it seems like that Vegito was at a slightly higher level however it was a fusion of the strongest fighters around(save Gohan) and they were only slightly stronger than two kids with limited fighting experience. Now with regard to statements made by a few other characters, During the battle with Zamasu, it wasn't Whis but Shin who says that Vegito might be stronger than Beerus. He gets solo'd with one finger like Aizen did to Ichigo. - Duration: 17:08. now multiply that by 50. We honestly just dont have enough info to even begin to consider this beyond just guessing, but I'll take what we know and make a guess. Add MUI on top of that, Whis isn't standing a chance. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. MUI is like a 100x stronger than SSB. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Gogeta wouldn't be able to IT out since there would be no ki to lock on to. So MUI Goku was better than Jiren, but not massively so. Press J to jump to the feed. And while Whis is trustworthy and I have no doubt that he is more powerful than Beerus, we haven't really seen Beerus exert himself either, so it's really hard to gauge where they'd both fall power-wise going all out. Knowing Dragon Ball I wouldn't be at all surprised if the physical toll of Ultra Instinct would decrease the amount of time the fusion would last for. I'm giving this to Whis 9/10. It was stated that he was able to tap into the form for defense but not for offense. I also wouldn't say that Broly "almost contended" with him. Plus we see how Zamasu was able to keep up with Vegito for the most part or at the very least there was not a massive power gap. But the other problem, these two would never be comparable fusions anyway. Now, Golden Frieza was able to withstand Broly for at least an hour and Broly was able to tag Gogeta a few times. To clarify, this was Buu with Piccolo, Mystic Gohan (who was far stronger than Gotenks), Goten and Trunks all together added on top of the power that Gotenks was struggling to beat, and Vegito dominates him. re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue quote Vegetto Blue The Saikyo Jump editorial office tells readers: "Frankly, the enemy Goku and co. are up against in this movie is the strongest. We have seen when there is a massive power discrepancy between fighters, like Goku vs Recoome or SSj2 Gohan vs Cell. So how does Whis teach Goku and Vegeta now? SSJB is 50x SSJG, which is leads and bounds above SSJ3. Name one time I attacked you. Fusion of Gogeta and Vegito: Gogito! MUI Goku > Jiren > SSB Gogeta > Broly His battle skills are so sharp he doesn't need to transform into MUI, he's just in a constant state of readiness. Even at a low end, that makes it >20,000x. Ultra Instinct Goku VS Jiren debuted in Dragon Ball Super Episode 110, but what if Super Vegito faced Whis? Moderated by: SgtMartin, EpicRaptorMan. MUI Goku maybe surpasses Beerus. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Thanks and have fun. This means that MUI doesn't meet the 2x requirement of Beerus to get into 2-C, but since Gogeta stomped somebody that roughly on the same level as MUI Goku, he should reasonably breach 2-C territory. The answer in the end is unknown, since Whis power is basically a mystery at this point. Before Goku hit the master form, he was able to avoid all of Jiren's attacks but was unable to do any real damage. We're talking the fusion of the two undisputed most powerful fighters in the universe at the time against a fusion of their children. I simply cant envisage a way that Gogeta could defeat Whis within the allotted 30 minutes whilst generating so much heat that even a fused body probably wont be able to withstand. I never once went after you saying crap or insulting cause we don’t agree (edited by SilverLightning95) 3. Whis doesn't even try. He is currently the strongest fusion out there as his mere presence fear all of the Gods of Destruction and the Angels. If they can both use MUI, it's likely just stalemate until Gogeta defuses or explodes due to the toll the heat will be taking on his body. 0. Now, Gogeta is very, very strong. Everything is going dark, I don't feel good Mr. Stark, hey now, there went the Spider-Man. I think that two MUI users in combat would simply fail to land good blows on each other due to them both perfectly dodging and blocking constantly. Whis only dodged SSJ Broly, while LSSJ Broly was the one who fought Gogeta. re: MUI Goku vs SSjin Blue Gogeta (DBS Broli) quote ryans I think regular SSJ Broly is stronger because the novel says so, but i think MUI could beat him due to skill snd reaction. Whis can even teleport through time. Whis wins. Gogeta MUI VS Whis : אני יודע שקשה מאוד להגיע למסקנות שכאלו, כי לא ראינו את כוחו האמיתי של Gogeta SSB בFULL POWER, וכמו שאנחנו יודעים יש הבדל שמיים וארץ - 2 SO Mui goku will win. MUI also … New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Plus on top of that, Jiren powered up enough swap hands with MUI Goku, putting both of them in this weird Angel/GoD inbetween place. Broly is probably SSG Gogeta level. Ssj god allowed goku to actually have a battle with beerus when ssj3 got put down in 2 taps like a child. It is stated in the Manga and Anime by the Supreme Kais that Beerus has enough power to destroy the entire universe if he was provoked enough - and it is again later implied that at full power, Beerus would destroy the entire universe. Gogeta and Broly both lie on the "Well, he MIGHT be able to defeat a GoD", whereas Jiren was on a level where it was stated "Not even a GoD can defeat him". A serious question to the people that think Goku is stronger than Gogeta, Dragon Ball FighterZ: Super Baby 2 Trailer and SSJ4 Gogeta Teaser. If you can agree with that, I move on to my conclusion. I think then it is safe to say that Gogeta is stronger than GF and Broly, but not massively so. Gogeta is not Vegito, and there is some debate over which is stronger. Gogeta has no counter to that. (Base Vegito is SSJ3). There used to be, but now we know they are the same power, according to new sources that came out in 2018 before the DBS: Broly movie. Do you think they could contend with him? So the battle would be FB Jiren and MUI Goku vs SSB Gogeta who can hypothetically use kaioken. I honestly dont think goku and vegeta will ever get to that level. He didn't even land a single hit in the fight. Gogeta MUI VS Whis : אני יודע שקשה מאוד להגיע למסקנות שכאלו, כי לא ראינו את כוחו האמיתי של Gogeta SSB בFULL POWER, וכמו שאנחנו יודעים יש הבדל שמיים וארץ Gogeta can last at least ~5 minutes(?) Whis has hax powers. The only thing we might be able to confirm about it is that Gogeta could revert out of it by loosing enough stamina since that occurred when Goku was using it, but that could be debatable since we don’t know if Gogeta has perfected it or not. So if we put it all together, it seems as though Gogeta with MUI is at best somewhat on par with a casual Whis, with not enough power to pose any real threat to Whis if he got serious. Even if MUI is above UI goku, gogeta blue is pretty terrifying. Even if Gogeta was stronger (doubtful), Whis could simply teleport him to another dimension and just leave him there. 547 Anime Fans. Mastered Ultra Instinct Gogito VS Zeno! There’s never been any showings of Gogeta having a MUI form, lol! MUI Goku alone rivals most of the Gods power (Including Beerus.) Ultimately SSB Gogeta is comparable to MUI Goku using Whis statement. » re: MUI Goku vs SSjin Blue Gogeta (DBS Broli) MUI Goku vs SSjin Blue Gogeta (DBS Broli) - Page 6. Remember when Videl jumped on Gohan's face. This more or less establishes the fact that MUI Goku would be stronger than Beerus. If beerus is the strongest god, it stands to reason whis is one of the strongest whatever they’re called. He can one shot Beerus, which I doubt any mortal can do. Welcome to the forums! Even after broly powered up again, Gogeta dominated him even harder. Time travel, time rewind, resurrection, transmutation, matter manipulation and healing powers to name a few. Take a second to look at our Beginner's Guide.It contains the information necessary for you to have an easier experience here. For one thing, UI doesn't really seem to be a massive power increase. MUI Goku only lasted a minute within the tournament IIRC. Unless UI and MUI gap is as big as ssj and ss blue then gogeta got this. I dont think hed use it in a normal fight but when pulling out all the stops he could and it breaks everything. Only one currently whose been able to transform into it is Goku. The nature of MUI is that the user can masterfully dodge and attack fully independently of their own thoughts. If they're bloodlusted I'm giving it to Whis 10/10 because of his time rewind. Gogeta is not Vegito, and there is some debate over which is stronger. Gt gogeta doesn't. MUI Gogito VS Whis & Beerus - Power Levels Dragon Ball Saiyan Z. I am under the impression that Whis would win given what we have to work with. Whis also seem to be amused at Broly, never threatened by him. ... Whis basically said if … On the other hand, Vegito fought and almost completely stomped the most powerful version of Buu ever seen in the franchise. Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue - Who is Stronger!? Nope, if you compare how easily whis was dodging broly when he was almost able to contend with ssb gogeta then a MUI gogeta wouldn’t be good enough either, in my opinion he’d only be using 10% or less of his power so maybe a oozaru MUI gogeta could be a solid foe This is hard to say because how strong they would be is unknown. What do I have to be hurt about if you think Jiren can beat Gogeta than good for you. Join Community. So it stands to reason that Gogeta would be stronger, even at that point in the story. If he was blood lusted, he could literally win the fight by making sure Goku and Vegeta were never born. The best we have is that both are maybe stronger than Beerus which means they stalemate in power which means Gogeta and MUI Goku stalemate in power which means MUI Goku wins as he has the advantage of thoughtless movement. Let's move on for a sec. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! Toriyama said Whis is 50% stronger than Beerus. Just don’t go attacking people cause that don’t agree. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Since ssb gogeta is Beerus level I don't think UI alone can close the gap. I am under the impression that Gogeta is stronger, but by how much is not clear. Whis on the other hand has no time limit and I'm willing to bet a hefty amount of stamina. We just have his word that hes more powerful than Beerus. » re: MUI Goku vs SSjin Blue Gogeta (DBS Broli) MUI Goku vs SSjin Blue Gogeta (DBS Broli) - Page 5. Though I think it is safe to presume that Whis himself can perform Ultra Instinct based on his position as an Angel and the fact that hes the guy who tells us everything that we learn about the technique. The Buu fought by Gotenks was not a fusion of the strongest fighters around, it was just Buu absorbing Buu. All this going off the presumption that Gogeta can use MUI anyway. MUI Goku is barely above UBW Jiren who scales above Beerus. As for MUI Gogeta that's hard to say. Whis also says this to Vegeta when he fights Beerus in the manga and loses the fight. Nope, if you compare how easily whis was dodging broly when he was almost able to contend with ssb gogeta then a MUI gogeta wouldn’t be good enough either, in my opinion he’d only be using 10% or less of his power so maybe a oozaru MUI gogeta could be a solid foe, if you compare how easily whis was dodging broly when he was almost able to contend with ssb gogeta. Gogeta needs to go in, hit really really hard, and finish off whoever's hes facing in 30 minutes. Gogeta Blue and MUI Goku are completely different cases. Even if Beerus had mastered UI he would still be below Whis as the angels are supposed to be stronger than their hakaishin. I'd say Whis though. You are indeed where you belong. Basically SSB Gogeta stomped Full Power Broly, who possibly surpasses Beerus. Whis by far. Take a second to look at our Beginner's Guide.It contains the information necessary for you to have an easier experience here. Neither of them have his dodging ability and every time MUI is used it gets better, in one minute he went from being unable to win against Jiren to manhandling a Jiren that had surpassed his limits. Whis is not only more powerful in terms of sheer power, he also possesses abilities that far outclass Goku. Whis is able to one shot Beerus. He can just rewind time every time Gogeta has an advantage and take that advantage away. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. Spider-Man, Spider-Man, does whatever a spider can. Whis can simply just dodge and block until Gogeta separates. It wouldn’t be hard; it would be impossible. Rank the most powerful character in dragon ball. It was a quick jab and ended so fast it is safe to say he is much, much more powerful than Beerus. Meanwhile, Gogeta Blue stomped LSSJ Broly (who is above Beerus), with the novel even adding he stomped him while holding back a lot. Gogeta base is around SSJ2 Kakarot. Gogeta could fend off MUI, but to be honest, there is not enough info for us to decide a winner. Gogeta is obscenely powerful yes, but MUI is hugely physically demanding and generates an enormous amount of heat, or at least did when Goku used it. So as ridiculous as MUI Gogeta would be even if whis has to try, he’s probably got some major strength that we never would normally see him use. Gotenks got the third weakest version of Majin Buu. Surely not together. I know MUI is obviously MUCH stronger than SSJB, but I doubt by that level, and plus Goku and Vegeta were likely more powerful by this point post-ToP When there is a massive difference in power the fight is over in a punch or two, not an extended fight. Welcome to the forums! Gogeta from super went to another dimension not gt gogeta. Thanks and have fun. Big problem here. So far, only Goku has been shown to use it. MUI Gogeta wins Yeah pretty much this Roflmao He gave Beerus a light chop to the back of the neck and ko'ed him. We haven't seen Whis actually exert himself, just training Goku and Vegeta and dodging Broly's attacks with ease. Nope. There’s no proof of that being retconned. If we look at Gotenks vs Buu and Vegito vs Buu, it seems like that Vegito was at a slightly higher level however it was a fusion of the strongest fighters around(save Gohan) and they were only slightly stronger than two kids with limited fighting experience. yeah, and Broly and Gogeta fighting together against MUI Goku would lose. Whis KO'd beerus with a light chop to the back of the head while he was rampaging while half asleep. So that's not really a good metric to go by. So we have a situation where we have two MUI users, but one has a 30 minute time limit on his existence and is a mortal generating a fuck ton of heat, and the other is an Angel who to our knowledge has no real weaknesses. Whis in the manga stomps beerus with 1 shot, this same beerus that 1 shot Mastered super saiyan blue vegeta. Whis also has time space hax and sealing powers. MUI burns out stamina crazy fast but whis just has it in his natural state. The thing is we never see Whis putting forth any sort of effort. 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